Questioner: 'You just never think this country is going to be a country where its own government kills its own citizens'

The exchange began with a questioner saying it is hard to imagine a country where the government "kills its own citizens and residents" and then asserts that victims are held responsible for their own deaths.

"You just never think that this country is going to be a country where its own government kills its own citizens and residents," the questioner said, adding that it is striking when a government "turns around and continues to say that the victim somehow were responsible." The remarks framed the broader theme of the interview: that state actors can be implicated in killings and that public narratives sometimes shift blame onto victims.

The transcript records this framing but contains testimonial claims rather than investigatory findings; no agency statements appear in the excerpt.