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Pope: Universal school-lunch programs can shrink quality by crowding out private support

September 20, 2026 | 2025 Confirmation Hearings Collection, Federal


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Pope: Universal school-lunch programs can shrink quality by crowding out private support
Chris Pope used New York's recent universal free school lunch rollout as a concrete example of trade-offs from broad program expansions. He said the program did not increase the budget overall but spread funds more thinly, which he said reduced meal quality: "When they said universal free school lunch, the budget didn't increase. It was just spread thinner. And so the quality of the food diminished."

Pope added that universalization displaced private revenue streams that had allowed some students to have higher-quality options, so the visible effect was that lower-income students remained dependent on poorer lunches while others found alternatives outside the program. He framed this as an instance of policy that may achieve equality in form but worsen outcomes in practice.

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